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Russian Mail Brides - Scammers Guide Part 2

Monday, August 11th, 2008

This is part 2 of our guide to scammers and Russian mail brides.

Type 3. The Long Con

This type of scam I’m not even certain actually exists today (I know of no recent confirmed cases). But it may exist and I guess has existed in other contexts for time immemorial so its worth having a quick look.

This scam involves a woman feigning interest in a man for enough time, and with enough conviction, so that she eventually gains a western passport and/or half the mans money.

My own view on this is that it ‘takes two to tango’. That for it to work there has to be a man whose character at the time in some way allows for it to happen. I say that if somebodies character is like this, that type of victimization can just as easily happen with the woman next door.

There is a lot of wealth in Russia today and there is no great reason for a woman skillful and dedicated enough to pull off such a thing to turn her attention outside Russia.

I could go into a lot of pondering here (using a lot of cod-pschology) into whether this scam exists all the time -  its just the participants refuse to admit it to themselves that it is a scam.

Do ‘relationships of convenience occur’? Yes, but that is very different to a deliberate scam.

Instead lets keep it short.

With one or two exceptions, every woman I met was completely genuine.

So basically in my opinion
- The chances of this Long Con happening are
(a) Incredibly small
(b) About the same as whether you are looking for a wife in Russia or looking in the next street. So finding a Russian mail bride is just as risky as any other relationship.

Conclusion

If you use a little bit of common sense, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to scammers. The vast majority of Russian women are genuine and if you use quality websites, you should have nothing to worry about.

In my own experience I only ever encountered one Type 1 (very easy to spot), one Type 2 (I lost about $20 and was foolish) and nothing would surprise me more were I to find myself in a Type 3 ;)

So my advice is don’t worry. You’ll be fine. Do it. Finding a Russian mail bride that is perfect for you is pretty much the best thing you can do.


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Russian Order Brides - Scammers Guide Part 1

Monday, August 11th, 2008

Basically, when it comes to Russian order brides you don’t have to worry about scammers too much. They are pretty easy to spot and all you have to do is be aware they are there. Generally, I’d say about 1% of women you come into contact with are scammers. Much less if you only use the best and reputable websites.

Anyway, there are 3 basic types of scams.

Type 1. The Big Score

This type you probably know. It involves an incredibly gorgeous woman becoming interested in you. At some point (usually within weeks), the woman will develop a ‘crisis’ (such as work problem, housing problem, or a sick relative) and needs you to urgently send her a large amount of cash.

Once the cash is sent, she disappears from your life. The pictures used were almost certainly not of her at all, and it was somebody else writing the letters.

Things that should arise your suspicion.

  • She is stunningly gorgeous and glamorous.
  • She asks for money (well duh). Genuine Russian women are very much aware they can be seen as scammers and will be very keen to show you they are not after your money.
  • She falls head over heels in love with you extremely quickly
  • Her letters don’t show a real interest in you. Her words just don’t show a genuine interest in your life and who you are. The words seem generic and not tailored for you.

No single one of these need necessarily be deal breakers. Impossibly gorgeous women are out there and people do have financial problems. If she asks for money, look to see if any of the others are there. If they are, you’ve probably got a scammer.

Type 2. Death By a Thousand Cuts

These scams are perpetuated by agencies based in Russia and can be found in the ‘pay-per-letter’ sites.

How these sites work is your letter goes via the site to an agency near where the girl is located. It is translated, she reads it then writes back and her reply is translated back to English. You pay for every translation (i.e. every letter sent and received). The website and the local agency split the money you pay.

Most of the agencies are fine, but some post fake profiles or keep profiles active long after the girl is no longer interested in meeting men. The agency will then pretend to be the girl in the profile, so they can get more of your money.

This type is a little harder to spot than the first. It can take a few letters to ascertain the woman has no interest in you. Given that (a) It can only happen on certain websites and (b) The most you’ll lose is probably around $20-$30. You’ll spend a similar amount anyway on a lot of girls in those types of websites as interest peters out naturally in any case.

So not a huge concern, but it exists can can suck a little of your precious time, money and emotion. Finding your dream Russian order bride can be the best thing you ever do, but you still don’t want to waste time or money.

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